Jenny Rudall: Say Yes. Google Later and The Conversations You Can't Have on Live TV

In a recent episode of The Equitas Podcast, equestrian broadcaster Jenny Rudall talks to Sarah about the accidental, thoroughly unplanned route into television, the honest reasons behind her family's move to Canada, and why her podcast has become the place she says the things her on-camera persona never could.

Jenny's television career, by her own account, was never planned - it was built one “say yes, then Google it” moment at a time, from an impulsive job advert that took her to Ireland with almost no experience, to an improvised iPad interview at Badminton that became her outlet's first-ever live broadcast. Sarah and Jenny talk through that whole unlikely route, including a few jobs along the way most people wouldn't guess at.

They also get into the gap between the composed, professional version of Jenny that shows up on camera and the person underneath it - someone who still describes real anxiety before big interviews, no matter how experienced she gets, and who is candid about what she isn't, as much as what she is.

The conversation covers the recent move to Canada too... not framed as a simple adventure, but as a considered decision about the kind of life she and her family actually wanted, away from a work culture she'd come to find draining.

And then there's Shut Up and Ride, the podcast Jenny co-hosts with Ben and Simon, built as a place to say what she can't say on television. They discuss how one unplanned, off-the-cuff moment on the show, about Jenny's own health, ended up reaching further than either of them expected, including exactly who it brought into her inbox afterwards.

It's a conversation about the difference between the job and the person doing it, and why the least polished version of Jenny might be the one worth listening to.